Anonymous

Duplicate Memorials

Somebody needs to take control of all of the duplicate memorials. I have found many duplicate memorials for my memorials. The problem it seems is that people do not know the real legal name of the person. "Jimmy" so and so is entered and the real name is "James". We need to go by the name that is on the grave. Mrs. So and So is not "Aunt Lou" Please check the legal name before you enter a memorial. This is going to cause all kinds of problems when it comes to a link between family members. Enter the name that is on the stone PLEASE
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WHO CARES IF THERE ARE DUPLICATES?

Charlene Qbm
map-marker Tustin, California

Findagrave response to Lonewalker aka Denise

Denise,

In response to your post. I can't speak for the problems you are having with everyone else. I can only speak for myself. I'm not going to waste my time trying to defend myself because I haven't done anything wrong. I'm just going to point out the facts. You had my account & memorials deleted. Doing so punished me, people who had transferred memorials to me & people who had posted photos to my memorials. My work and their work is gone. My memorials & account were deleted on or about May 26th of this year. You wasted no time re-posting my memorials and taking credit for my work and the work of others who had transferred their memorials to me. This seems to be your motivation for deleting my work. Your actions speak louder than anything else. You have lost any creditability by doing this.

If that is not enough, it looks like you are going after my family and friends on find a grave. Don't expect me or them to sit by and not tell everyone what is going on.

Everything you have posted in the following cemeteries since May 26th is my work and my family not yours;

Oakwood - Montgomery, Alabama

Greenwood - Montgomery, Alabama

Lincoln - Montgomery, Alabama

Wetumpka City Cemetery - Wetumpka, Alabama

People have emailed me and asked me what is going on and I am telling them. They want to know why you would want to do this to someone. Even some of your friends from LCRA.

I think your actions are hurting you a lot more than they are hurting me. You can't hide the fact that you are taking credit for someone else's work. Did you think people wouldn't notice. I had family photos posted on my memorial sites. I have a lot of friends on find a grave. I have been a member almost 4 years.

I can't post all of my memorials you have copied there are to many. I had over 5,000 memorials.

Just a few examples of my original memorials:

Memorial# 9180****

Memorial# 9180****

Memorial# 9308****

Memorial# 9115****

Memorial# 9308****

Memorial# 9308****

Memorial# 9327****

Memorial# 9177****

Memorial# 9308****

Memorial# 9074****

Thank you so much Denise for proving my case for me.

Do I need to do something about the fact that you seem to be STALKING me and my family? Because for one who says they don't care you seem to be taking an abnormal interest in me & my family.

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Debbie do your homework! The risk of being harassed and bullied is high!By volunteers and administrators.

People were aggressively stalked and bullied over a period of 4-5 months. Police reports were filed in so many states it was difficult to keep track of. Jim Tipton does nothing to stop the harassment of his volunteer administrators and contributors. what you get is no response, banned or blocked.

Admins delete work in violation of the so called rules.If it takes 33 hours to document and photograph one small cemetery you risk losing it all with disturbed individuals who create false stories to get your account deleted. Try BILLION GRAVES

Guest

I did not know how upset people were getting about me using different names on this website. I assumed because the site tracks the town and state people would be able to identify my posts.

In July something was wacky with the site.All my posts are listed under Madison Wisconsin from July 1, 2012 to July 27,2012 On July 28 it changes to Minneapolis, Minnesota. I will now stick to using one name to help you all out but if I forget remember all of July Madison WS and Minneapolis Minnesota to date.

Guest

OH wow is that what happened to joe? dang !!

Guest

DEB DASH LOVES TO DELETE MEMBERS BUT LEAVE THEIR MEMORIALS AND PHOTOS! POOR JOEL FARRINGER HAD HIS ACCOUNT DELETED BUT THE MEMORIAL HE CREATED & SPONSORED FOR HIS WIFE, HIS SON & HIMSELF ALL REMAIN BUT HE WHO PAID FOR THE SPONSORSHIPS & PROVIED THE PHOTOS HAS HAD IS ACCOUNT DELETED.

SEE MEMORIALS #827****, 827**** & 6604****.

HE IS JUST ONE OF MANY VICTIMS OF DEB "THE DEVIL" DASH.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED BY FIND A GRAVE ADMINISTRATION & ITS MEMBERS REPORT IT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU, LETS GET THE SITE SHUT DOWN!

Guest
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I have read a lot of bad remarks about ' Dash' On her account page she write after 45 ,000 graves she has lost the spark for the site or something to that. a guy sent her a message on facebook and his account was turn off .I can tell you if she takes someone email from facebook that will be a big deal report her all day long , Thats stealing a person Data from another site .

Facebook will take it up . Her account should not be able to say she lost her spark for a site that she works for or did work for.

I hope she tries to be a better person to members we all have dead family and we all want to be treated fair, I have seen her make fun of some people grammer I thought what a shame to make fun of any one. She should look at her self before you steps out on making fun of anyone .

Guest

Lets do it!!!!!!They abuse volunteers in a nasty way and the stalking should scare anyone.

Guest

THESE AND MANY OTHER ISSUES WITH FIND A GRAVE'S ADMINSTRATION SHOULD BE REPORTED. I HAVE HEARD THERE IS ANOTHER WEBSITE THAT IS BEING SET UP THAT WILL RIVAL FIND A GRAVE AKA ***.

BUT IN THE MEAN TIME EVERYONE THAT HAS HAD A COMPLAINT ABOUT FIND A GRAVE SHOULD REPORT IT! LET'S LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT ABUSE & USE OF PEOPLE SO THAT JIM TIPTON CAN LINE HIS POCKETS!

Guest

Please stop making fictitious statements as long as administrators do not have to follow the FAQS which stands for frequently asked questions and are referred to as guidelines NOT RULES! They can pick and choose who and how things go down and in many situations it will be to degrade attack and humiliate people.

Guest

Debbie, Those you find complaining here are those who had their Find A Grave accounts suspended or closed because of an inability to follow the guidelines laid out in the sites Frequently Asked Questions. They are explained in pretty simple terms but some folks decide to works by their owns rules.

As expected, it turns out badly.

Don't post duplicate memorials, don't create memorials for people whose burials sites you can't locate, don't pirate other people's photos, and always transfer memorials if the request falls with in the guidelines laid out. Those hints will keep you out of 99% of potential problems.

Guest

@ Debbie - If I was you, I'd stay the *** away from that site. It's unbelievable what's going on over there.

I had been on there for 9 years but had my account deleted as well and all my memorials removed. I had years worth of work that I thought was safe because it was a "memorial" site and who would ever think someone would be so disrespectful towards anyone on a site about the deceased? Well disrespectful is not the half of it, those people are downright evil.

Just read some of the things they post. Their words speak for themselves.

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LENDA TUCK
map-marker Longview, Texas

MAKING UP NAMES FOR NEW CEMETERIES THAT NEVER EXISTED

CONTRIBUTOR KARI NORSTOG # 12728**** IS A FRAUD ON FIND A GRAVE. KARI NORSTOG MAKES UP NEW CEMETERIES NAMES AND ADDS NAMES: THE FOLKS THAT SHE HAS ADDED IS MY FAMILY. THEY ARE NOT BURIED IN HER NEW CEMETERY. THEY ARE BURIED IN DIFFERENT CEMETERIES WITH HEADSTONES AS PROOF. I HAVE REPORTED THIS TO FIND A GRAVE A NUMBER OF TIMES TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSE TO BE IN CHARGE, BUT NO RESPONSE...FIND A GRAVE HAS NO PHONE...I HAVE LOST ALL FAITH IN FIND A GRAVE. WHY DON'T FIND A GRAVE ACT ON FRAUD? THANK YOU .
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HAHAHA! I knew you couldn't resist kari....I played you.

Just like fishing bait the line and wait for the hard head to ***...you have been hooked and gutted kari. The bait has been set again....just waiting for you kari...hehehe

Guest

I hope that Kari and her fakes don't stop commenting I LOVE that she is here everyday keeping this going. Kari please don't stop, everyone is getting such a big LAUGH at your expense.

Please keep us laughing at you Kari! Everyone here is having a blast watching you make a f.oo.l of yourself!

Guest

There are people in this world that no matter what you say or do ,will always be against. you.

Their unhappiness with themselves and their lives unfortunately consumes them.And Rather than deal with their emotional feelings of inadequacy and hatred towards themselves and others ,They take their frustrations out on other people .

hence. becoming Bullies .

Guest
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knight, That is a perfect description of Kari Norstog.

Guest
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Your the bully Lenda Tuck Look what you did to Kari Norstog. Calling her a fraud when really you are the fraud.look at all the posts on here doesn't look to me that Kari is the bully at all!!

Guest
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Kari, You had to have copied and pasted this from a book because your not this smart to figure it out on your own. This fits you

perfectly. I would hope that you can understand what you have copied and understand it so that it would help you overcome the hate you have for yourself and for others.

Guest

Find A Grave is having major problems....Karma Gotcha!

Guest
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Yah maybe those findagrave Gods got Banned by the very people they banned. And they banned a lot of people,for nothing .I don't think any volunteer Administrator Should have that power to decide who stays and who goes.I don't think anybody should ban people on.

findagrave. I think they should just

take down the grave and not let. the person that.

caused the trouble put the grave up again. and get rid of the edit button so people can't just change the web grave with out asking the person that made it.

Guest

All this c.r.a.p. for the dead.

I would never be what's the word...egnorant..or better yet..ignorant...enough to spend any time or money on that f.a.g it site.

If you got banned or whatever just step back and say GOOD RIDDANCE! And jim tipton ***s a rotten eggs.

Guest

Find a grave and ancestry just crashed. So this posting is useless .

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Anonymous
map-marker Minneapolis, Minnesota

FINDAGRAVE CYBER STALKING! HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF

new issue -If you plan on using this site be prepared you will for the most part be surrounded by wonderful people but eventually the ones WHO may be troubled come at you out of know where and you have no idea what just happened because those people are random volunteers and administrators who want to make a point that the time you spent making that trip to the cemetery, to take a photo for someone you do not know to help them; is MEANINGLESS to jim tipton. The administrator let me know my volunteer time was DISPOSABLE and REPLACEABLE!

PLEASE use a fake name set up a an email account using the fake name to register for the site you should keep public messages open. create a user name and hide your email address. be careful If you have a face book make everything private in case you have made your self tractable to your face book account your children are fair game!. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST POST TO ADDRESS CYBER STALKING ON FINDAGRAVE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME !

How to know for sure if you have a cyber stalker

1. False accusations. Many cyberstalkers try to damage the reputation of their victim and turn other people against them.

2. Attempts to gather information about the victim.

They often will monitor the victim's online activities and attempt to gather more information about their victims.

3. Encouraging others to harass the victim. Many cyberstalkers try to involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has harmed the stalker or his/her family in some way, or may post the victim's name and telephone number in order to encourage others to join the pursuit.

4. False victimization. The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is harassing him/her. Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a number of well-known cases.

************************************************ />What is cyber-stalking?

Threatening behaviour or unwanted advances directed at another using the Internet and other forms of computer communications" (National Centre for the Victims of Crime 2008, UK). Stalking can be defined as the course of conduct by which one person repeatedly inflicts on another unwanted intrusions to such an extent that the recipient fears for his or her safety or a coerced destructive relationship. A relationship where one person's life is intruded upon or violated by any number of means they might engage in.

These are the sorts of behaviours that stalkers might engage in online:

"¢ Constructing websites targeting the victim

"¢ Transferring attack to victim's relatives (their targets daughter or brother)

"¢ Use of the victim's image

"¢ Provoking others to attack the victim (

"¢ Following the victim in cyberspace

"¢ Identity theft – controlling victim's credentials"¢

"¢ Discrediting in online communities

"¢ Discrediting victim in workplace

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The ones you will find on the site that are crazy: people who manage 100,000 memorials or more. These people have some sick obsession, and will be the first ones to harass, threaten, and be nasty to you to get what they want. They have mental problems.

Guest

I could not agree more.

Wish I had read this before I ever registered for the site.

Never, Never will I use it again

Jessie Jtq

PEOPLE PLEASE TAKE THIS POST SERIOUS!! GOING THROUGH THESE REVIEWS THE BEHAVIOR OF THOSE WHO ARE ON THE SITE IS ALARMING THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY STALKED BULLIED AND CREATED WEB BLOGS TO BULLY THEM.

Guest

I wanted to share this because I thought this was interesting...When prosecuted, many stalkers have unsuccessfully attempted to justify their behavior based on their use of public forums, as opposed to direct contact. Once they get a reaction from the victim, they will typically attempt to track or follow the victim's internet activity. Classic cyberstalking behavior includes the tracing of the victim's IP address in an attempt to verify their home or place of employment.

Guest

the so called f.a.g. faq's are load of ***..that has been well established on this website as well as many others.

they only apply to members that do not have friends that are f.a.g. adminstrators. lonewalker you are clearly someone that abuses others and as well as exploits our loved ones deaths. stay away from our family cemetery you are trespassing!

poor lonewalker its true you are pathetic!

as for the so called duped faq it is bogus since I can site several dupes that were merged and the duper maintains the memorial so get your facts right, you spewing outright lies!

ps...anyone else bored with lonewalker's complaint...stopped reading it after the first couple of lines...blah, blah blah

Guest

I think I found the abuse of volunteers so disturbing that I would rather invest my time in warning people about Jim Tipton. He is condoning and supporting his administrators who are verbally abusive and actually intentionally humiliate the volunteers who participate on the site who had been driving out to cemeteries to get photos for other.

Or documenting them and photographing them so they are recorded for future visitors.

The hole process is time consuming and a waste of time because this man will toss it in the garbage after you have been adding and helping for years. I and others are now being stalked by volunteers of the website and the hate blog that has been uploaded to social media twitter and facebook the author even boasts how Jim Tipton does not care about her stalking and bullying activities...

Guest

@ Totally agree - the sad thing about that is, there are so many people that have already done that. They are going around, about their day and genuinely care about helping others by taking the pictures and agreeing to help out.

They have no clue that they are being used and eventually will be dumped. In my case, I never had any contact with anyone until I got a series of emails from one member about dupe listings. Then suddenly my account was deleted. I sent multiple emails asking why it was deleted and then requests for it to be reinstated but I never got a response.

That was 7 months ago.

Still nothing. The bottom line is, you don't know until it's too late.

Guest

jim ignores all complaints and stands by his biased administration, remember this site is based on members adding their pictures and visiting cemeteries and adding the buried within to their site so they can profit from your gas, time and efforts. beware do NOT contribute to jim and his evil administrators!

Guest

1. False accusations. Many cyberstalkers try to damage the reputation of their victim and turn other people against them.

1. Written by Read the FAQs on August 25, 2012 From Wichita, Kansas, US

To any readers of this post: please do not be fooled with the responses. The OP, "Anonymous" is the same as the "Blue Genes" in the comments section. She is a former member of F.A.G. who has been banned, for her own harassing behavior.

Guest

To any readers of this post: please do not be fooled with the responses. The OP, "Anonymous" is the same as the "Blue Genes" in the comments section.

She is a former member of F.A.G. who has been banned, for her own harassing behavior.

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Kgrab G
map-marker Salt Lake City, Utah

Find a Grave

I contacted this company a year ago to let them know that the person who has taken over the site for my father. Is a family member who my family has had many problems with. She stole my mothers photo's is using them on this site, she is putting stories up that are not true and a few of the photo's she put on this memorial were taken from my facebook page when she was opening accounts in other peoples names to get in to my account. My whole family is disgusted with this site. The person I spoke to through email said I had to ask the person to remove them. This person has been harassing me for two years my mother for many more. So I can not contact her. I can not believe that some one can just go on this site and right what they want and steal photo's and put them up, even though they claim copy right laws. Where are my copy right laws when they will not remove personal pictures that I took my self and the ones that belong to my mother? Disgusted!
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Contact the BBB of Utah you can file a complaint online it will probably take a while since Jim Tipton is too busy counting his money to respond in a timely manner but he will eventually. And he is well aware of copyright violations and will remove the copyrighted information or material. Along with honoring your copyrights, they get another BBB complaint on their record.

Guest

I am sorry you had a bad experience. I honestly believe that the website should not condone harassment as it does disciplinary measures should be put in place so that you may have a memorial on this site harassment free and it is not.

Guest

Portia, I just found your msg or would have replied right away. The eilraest Hardesty we have found is William A.

Hardesty (wife Louisa Knauff Hardesty). William was from Maryland, moved to Malvern, Ohio, in the early 1800 s, owned one of the first flour mills in eastern Ohio.

Had ten sons, two daughters, most of his sons also became millers. We would appreciate any info you might have about this family.Ann Hardesty,

Guest

Why not just send a DMCA takedown notice to their host?

Looks like this is their host:

www.xmission.com

Copyright Infringement

XMission does not condone copyright infringement. We do not, however, needlessly invade our clients' privacy without notice and reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing. XMission's Designated Agent for notice of any claimed infringement, as provided for under the U.S. DMCA, is:

Hector Nevarez, Technical Support

XMission, L.C.

51 East 400 South, Suite 200

Salt Lake City, UT 84111

Phone: 801.539.0852

Fax: 801.539.0855

Email: abuse@***.com

In order for XMission to review your claim, you must:

Identify the copyrighted work allegedly infringed

Identify the material which you claim is infringing

Provide your name, address, telephone number and email address

In addition, the notification must be signed by an authorized person, and state a good faith belief that the material is infringing, as well as that the information contained in the notice is accurate. In turn, XMission will investigate any legitimate complaints, and will take remedial measures where required by law.

Guest

Fixing this is actually simple. Guidelines require transfers of family members within four generations as long as you are more closely related to the deceased.

Assuming this person is not your sibling or your father's sibling, it is a slam dunk. If you join Find A Grave, send a 'Suggest A Correction' including clicking the box to send yourself a copy. Be polite and axplain your relationship. I realize the memorial manager likely knows all of this, but right it with a stranger in mind.

That info will be important down the line.

If/when they don't transfer within the required 30 day window, you take your copy and forward it to Admin. They are about a month behind on getting stuff fixed (handling 79 million memorials), but they WILL DO IT.

Guest

Find A Grave is a tight group of administrators that can do what they please to the memorials posted. I have had friends post memorials, and have them deleted within days...because friends air a complaint that doesn't sit right with them. Some of the Find A Grave contributors make it a 24/7 priority..

Guest

Kgrab, unfortunately no one has given you good advice yet.

Who did you "speak to through email"? You need to write the "info" address which is listed in the site's FAQs. As immediate family, all you have to do is ask for the memorial to be removed.

If your photos were taken after 1989, they are automatically copyrighted when you took them. Prior to 1989, there were requirements for copyright protection.

Guest

@ Jane you have no idea what you're talking about. A person's photos are protected by copyright law in the US regardless of whether or not they've been "registered".

Guest

Prettiestpretty/just me=same person aka ***.

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Wth does this mean?

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Anita B Orn
map-marker Minneapolis, Minnesota

Aministrators Deleting Photos Taken by Volunteers

Jim Tipton makes a living off of volunteers. You would think he might have a zero tolerance for any abuse to the system. However his volunteer administrators like Julie are deleting photos taken by volunteers that believed they were helping someone else. ARE You driving out of town buying batteries spending a couyple hours looking for a stone that someone requested a photo for? there is a 50/50 chance that it is being deleted for a number of reasons . Volunteers running the site have egos bigger than their humanity and do not have to follow rules so they delete memorials to control who owns them I lost 16,000 photos taken over a period of 5 years. STEPHEN JEWETT Maple lawn cemetery Faribault Minnesota the administrator JULIE deleted the entire memorial I did the research for 2 headstone pictures one I took when i first made the memorial and the other her mom placed a request in my memorial and i filled it when i had a break in school the administrator who delted and then duped my memorial then placed a photo request for a NEW PICTURE ! keep in mind she deleted 16,000 pictures so people are placing new requests. 50 people were passed over who lost pictures and have just been waiting. JULIE has a new picture..... this act of abuse is disturbing. The system she abused and the reason she did it was to torment the rule following fool who had just gone out to the cemetery and took a picture to help someone out.....She deleted them and sent someone out again... DISGUSTING http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=8737****
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I have seen hundreds of volunteer photos removed by administrators...They need to remove the volunteer option it is just a waste of time, gas and money on the part of the volunteer as you never know if your photo is going to be deleted by unscrupulous administrators!

Guest

I did not know how upset people were getting about me using different names on this website. I assumed because the site tracks the town and state people would be able to identify my posts.

In July something was wacky with the site.All my posts are listed under Madison Wisconsin from July 1, 2012 to July 27,2012 On July 28 it changes to Minneapolis, Minnesota. I will now stick to using one name to help you all out but if I forget remember all of July Madison WS and Minneapolis Minnesota to date.

Guest

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE LAUGHS...YOU JUST KEEP MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF...HEHE

FIND A GRAVE "SO CALLED" FAQ'S: "Any contributor can upload an appropriate photo to any memorial regardless of who manages the page. No permission from the memorial manager is needed."-Find A Grave FAQ's

THAT F.A.G.FAQ IS A COMPLETE & UTTER LIE TOO!!! JUST LIKE EVERYTHING "READ THE FAQ'S" COMMENTS.

Guest

I have filed a report with the police. They are monitoring the content right now.

The cyber stalker and bully is stalking multiple people though I think I might submit stalking and bullying to all 5/ or 6 of the states to include the ones that the stalkers live in.

What I also want to know is why Jim Tipton bans people for using chalk on headstones but when one of his members is stalking and bullying outside of findagrave obsessing of the death of my 4 year old son why does he do nothing? just please be careful

Alana M Fty

@ Stalked by findagrave - why haven't you contacted the police? If you have contacted the police what is being done?

Have you filed a complaint? Have you contacted the BBB?

Guest

There is really nothing more corrupt than abusing the effort of any volunteer!!! When someone gets burned volunteering they will be less likely to go out and do it again.

The fact that people are being cyber stalked and bullied on this website is disturbing. My daughter found some stranger grossly discussing her brothers death in a hate blog The stalker linked my face book account to a hate blog exposing my family minor children and vulnerable adults to attack BY FINDAGRAVE MEMBERS.

Guest

FIND A GRAVE PROFITS FROM OTHERS WORK NOT THEIRS! THEY PROFIT FROM THE ADS THEY PROFIT FROM THE SPONSORSHIPS THEY PROFIT FROM THE PHOTOS & VOLUNTEERS PHOTOS!

THE CONTROL FREAKS ARE THE FIND A GRAVE ADMINSTRATORS THAT CHOOSE WHICH GUIDELINES APPLY TO WHO, ITS LIKE DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO MENTALITY.

SHAME ON FIND A GRAVE AND THEIR UNSCRUPOLOUS ADMINISTRATION & WEB SITE!

REPORT THEM TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU! LETS GET FIND A GRAVE ALSO KNOWN AS FIND A HEARTACHE SHUT DOWN!

Guest

You may want to go back and check the state listing for Blue Genes from July 1 2012 -August 4, My state is listed as Madison Wisconsin And I corrected it August 6 2012 to Minneapolis Minnesota It has been that ever since... I do not think it is a good idea for you to try and stalk blue genes.....

Guest

Admins absolutely think it is funny as heck to get you to spend your money and free time on helping others out. Driving to a cemetery out of town and spending an hour or so looking for the stone to take a picture for a complete stranger out of the kindness of your heart.

If you are doing that you should know JULIE thinks your a joke!!!

Jim Tipton condones his staffs behavior when they do humiliate you for going out to get those pictures. 60 people were passed over when her humiliation photo requests were placed and filled before any of the others who lost photos due to her deleting the total amount of EDITED pictures I took of 16,000 pictures 5 years wasted and lesson learned JIM TIPTON THINKS WASTING VOLUNTEERS TIME IS FUNNY!!!

Guest

For those who don't know the whole story: AKB71, Blue Genes and OMG!!! are all the same person.

Now, to clarify the "Julie" situation.

There is, indeed, an admin named Julie. She is not the same Julie as is a prolific poster in the Forums.

AKB71/Blue Genes/OMG!!! believes the person who requested the photo was the admin Julie's mother but that is solely a SUPPOSITION on her part. AKB71/Blue Genes/OMG!!!

(and a ton of other names here on Pissed Consumer) has a bad habit of jumping to conclusions without proof and will not provide proof when called on it.

Take half of what she claims and throw it in the trash. Take the other half with a healthy dose of salt (not just a pinch).

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Anonymous
map-marker Hartford, Connecticut

Frank D Rende wrongfully accused of sex crimes.

This is a disgrace to Frank Rende. Who gave WH the right to slander his good name.

He was not arrested. Get your information straight or face liable and defamation of character. Remember, God doesn't like ugly. But I'm going to call you a ***.

You wish you had the heart of gold and easy spirit he had. Did you make money???? Remember the canker worm honey.... you FAKE Christian....

Take his information off of your site. How can you in good conscience write something you know nothing about?

Can you imagine how his family is feeling? You heartless ***!

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What is disgusting is men who sexually abuse and get away with it and people coming out of the wood work to support them...so he's dead, good and dead...Thankfully. It's not enough he got away with sexually abusing his victims now his supports are attacking his victims that is APPALLING!

Jessie Jtq
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was he proven guilty?

Guest

How dare you applaud such a terrible thing. That is a terrible thing to say and you should be ashamed of yourself.

I'm actually discusted at how terrible people can be. Plus you have no idea who frank even is.

Guest

I am relieved that there is one less sexual predator preying on underage girls and I want to thank him for making it easier for his victims and the court system.

I especially like the "good riddance" and "he was a sick pig", comments.

Guest

I WILL NEVER RESPECT A SEXUAL PREDATOR OR THOSE THAT SUPPORT THEIR ACTIONS!

I am relieved that there is one less sexual predator preying on underage girls and I want to thank him for making it easier for his victims and the court system.

I especially like the "good riddance" and "he was a sick pig", comments.

That's what I love about this site and America we are allowed to express our opinions...so if you stop expressing yours I may consider stop expressing mine though its not likely since I feel those who try and keep the victims quiet and those that want victims to "shut up" are just as guilty of sexual abuse as the abuser!

You are the one that said he was accused of being a rapist, thanks for the heads up I believe he probably was since you feel a need to try to convince others he was not or are you really trying to convince yourself....?

Guest

To: IM NEVER GOING TO SHUT UP! actually he did tell me all of that so I think it's about time you shut up.

Congrats you're a survivor, I'm sure it hasn't been easy for you but this isn't the time and place to be talking about it because frank was not a rapist. All I ask is that you respect him and bring your business elsewhere because unless you knew him personally, you have no idea what kind of person he was!

Guest

Most victims of sexual abusers are told to shut up and keep their mouths shut. Which is why sexual predators go unpunished, and are never arrested or convicted. But those of us that have survived sexual abuse will NEVER SHUT UP AND WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!

To:I'm the only one who actually....YOU ARE THE ONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT...DID HE PERSONALLY TELL YOU WHY HE WAS KILLING HIMSELF?! NO I BET NOT!

BEING ATTRACTED TO YOUNGER WOMEN IS NOT A CRIME BEING A SEXUAL PREDATOR OF UNDER AGE GIRLS IS A CRIME!

Guest

Whoever said good riddance can shut the *** because you obviously have no idea what really happed. You may know some of the girls but I was one of the girls.

Frank was a good man. Yes I think he was attracted to younger women but that doesn't make him a bad person.

He killed himself, not because he was afraid of going to jail but because he hated himself for liking younger women and felt he was a bad person which is completely false. Frank was a great guy and he doesn't deserve all of the terrible things people are saying about him so shut up because none of you know what you're talking about

Guest

Being a victim of sexual abuse & physical abuse from childhood & into my teens, I knew that was something I would never do! ...I am sick of hearing "I was abused as a child and that is why I abuse"...to me it is even worse when victims go on to abuse.

Our society has tolerated sexual abusers and child molesters long enough. So when I hear one has chickened out and taken the easy way out I am not sad...since for years I thought the only way to end my abuse was to end my life.

It was enough he took my childhood and much more of my life and I did not want to give him the satisfaction of being the reason I ended my life. He was never arrested, never convicted...

Guest

You are very right! The majority of child abusers (sexual or otherwise) are never reported, never arrested and never prosecuted...That's why there are abusers.

Unfortunately this man was a child victim who grew up to offend. If he did I do not know if he was found guilty?

However he did stop the cycle he made a choice to never be a victim again or take another victim. Its Just sad..

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Anonymous
map-marker Sallisaw, Oklahoma

Deleted 87 memorials

I also becamea a member of findagrave and was very excited and put on about a hundred memorials of my family only. I put in many hours of work I found that a few of my relatives had been put on by other contributors and I agree with the previous person that many of them are hoarders. I asked this on contributor to transfer those memorials to me they were very basic some of the info incorrect. When this contributors and others refused to transfer my family's memorials to me I proceeded to make duplicates. I put pics, bios or obits and tried to make all of them consistant. Some of the other contributors did not like it because I had a few duplicates and harrased me. One person, made a duplicate and attached that to my memorials making it look like that my great grandparents had two children by the exact same name when I tried to get that peson to be reasonable and we could do a memorial together she refused wanted it her way or no way. She reported me and I was threatened that if I ever did that again I would be thrown off the website. About a month ago my brother called me about a certain contributor and what she had written in her bio saying that just because you are related does not mean you have the right to those memorials etc. Being an all around ***, so I posted a public message on her bio because I did not have access to her email, she told me that I was in the wrong because I complained that she would not transfer the memorials that I had not followed procedure etc. I asked her what right did she have to put other peoples families on findagrave did those people ask her to do that I certainly had not well it seems that the management termed I had been inappropriate and removed all of my memorials. Somewhere down the line the people that run this websited have determined that they are "God" and can do what they want well personally even though they destroyed a lot of hard work I do not want my name associated with such a website that thinks that they have the right to keep family members memorials etc away from their living relatives who only want to honor their loved ones. People should only be able to put only their family members parents grandparents etc on this website. My aunt found this website after I told her about what they had done. If they thought they were hurting me no way I lost a lot of work but at least my name is not associated with someone who thinks they have the right to play "God" Sylvia
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Guest

I nicknamed them this because it's true, they hoard these memorials on Find A Grave and it blows me away. I've been researching my family tree for 15 yrs.

now and have actually helped many many others without charging them to get started researching their trees. So a couple of yrs. ago I found Find A Grave and thought, wow, what a great genealogy tool and then I ran into a nightmare. I was born and raised in West Tenn.

and so were my parents so that is where my major research is and I ran into a big time memorial hoarder. These people on *** talk about the RULES of *** but they break them all the time, they've got a *** contest going as to who can hoard the most *** memorials to the detriment of us who have family buried in these cemeteries. I have seen mistake after mistake on these memorials of names, dates, etc. yet if I contact them most of the time they won't go to the trouble to correct the memorial.

They're not suppose to make memorials from obits and they're surely not suppose to put living family members names on these memorials but they do. This person I ran into seems to have access to obits on the spot and if anyone in West Tenn. dies she has a memorial page made on them from their obit before they're even put into the ground. I know this for I've found memorials she's made the day the obit came out in a newspaper.

I kind of ticked her off early on so she refused to transfer my maternal gr.mother's memorial page to me. She had made the memorial because she found my gr.mother buried in a national cemetery with her 2nd husb. who had served in WWII. I lived out of State and didn't go to this gr.mother's funeral nor was I close to her in growing up but that didn't mean I didn't want to own her memorial on ***.

I told another *** member about this in that area and she got the memorial in a round about way and transferred it to me.

So there are getting to be more jerks on *** than not who are into only hoarding memorials, they don't give a hoot as to who is buried there are their history... :roll

Guest

5 YEARS 5,000 MEMORIALS 16,000 PICTURES GONE MONEY AND TIME SPENT TO HELP OTHERS THIS SITE ABUSES WHAT YOU DO. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE UP AGAINST BECAUSE REALLY ALL IT TAKES IS ONE HOARDER AND YOUR OUT.... THE ADMINISTRATOR ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO ADD NAMES FROM DEATH INDEXES TO RANDOM CEMETERIES AND PUNISHES PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE CEMETERY AND ACCURATELY RECORD AND PHOTOGRAPH.

ADMINISTRATOR TANYA

I'm sorry if the first added memorial for Stephen Jewett was added to the wrong cemetery, and yours was added to the correct one.

We may remove the memorial for Stephen Jewett from Find A Grave, but then you will not be able to create another one.

Guest

I love find a grave, thanks for helping me find my lost family. If that's not concrete evidence I don't know what is!

I love being able to leave flowers and notes.

Create your own genealogy website, that's the place to add all you want and own it. Link your find a grave family member memorial to it or save the picture and add it to your collection, where ever that may be, even a shoe box will work.

Love find a grave!!

Guest

I found several of my relatives on the site and thought it was wonderful. There is no way I could travel to the different states they are berried in.

I love the add a flower/note feature.

That is where I added additional information about my relative for others (mostly thinking of my current and future families to find/read). I agree, it is a great site and has helped a lot while working on the family tree.

Guest

they locked me out for about 9 months and when i told them i want them to remove the 30000+ pictures i had added they let me back in but they had transferred alot of my stuff to other people who were not even related. i am not going to say anything to them for fear they will lock me out again and tranfer the rest of my stuff

Guest
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I found a relative's memorial with a bio completely incorrect.

The information was about the relative's mother and not her.

I asked that the bio be corrected and sent the correct information.

It was not corrected. I sent a polite note and asked for a transfer since it was my relative. Denied. I emailed and left public messages but nothing was done. I hate for history's sake that this information about this person is completely wrong. What can I do? I wont make a duplicate because that would not be right.

Guest

Duplicates deleted, degrading to the site and taking up valuable webspace

Guest

:cry

Good grief, Find A Grave is a GRAVES REGISTRATION website. This is its PRIMARY purpose, to register the existence of GRAVES. No one is playing God, we find a grave and we register it. We document cemeteries before they disappear. So many gravestones are no longer readable, or are broken, damaged, and crumbling with time and the elements. We are getting them on the site to preserve them before they are gone.

It is NOT a family tree or genealogy site. You do not build your trees at ***. There's plenty of software out there for your genealogy research. *** ain't it. Read the FAQ's before you get your panties in knots over what you think should be the rules.

And you INTENTIONALLY duplicated original memorials. That's a huge NO NO. One person, one grave memorial. That's how it works. You go thorough the channels to ask for more information and links to be added. You DO NOT need to "own" or "manage" anyone and everyone you are related to. If someone will transfer a relative within the 4 generation guidelines, wonderful. If the relative doesn't meet the transfer criteria, then you don't need it. What happens if 3 or 4 great great grandchildren (5 generations, out of guidelines) all contact me wanting to "have their relative"....hmmmmm??? Who do I pick? And no, we are not hoarders. We are caretakers of the registration of the grave.

Yes, if you cannot play by the rules, you are not welcome.

Guest

:cry

Good grief, Find A Grave is a GRAVES REGISTRATION website. This is its PRIMARY purpose, to register the existence of GRAVES. No one is playing God, we find a grave and we register it. We document cemeteries before they disappear. So many gravestones are no longer readable, or are broken, damaged, and crumbling with time and the elements. We are getting them on the site to preserve them before they are gone.

It is NOT a family tree or genealogy site. You do not build your trees at ***. There's plenty of software out there for your genealogy research. *** ain't it. Read the FAQ's before you get your panties in knots over what you think should be the rules.

And you INTENTIONALLY duplicated original memorials. That's a huge NO NO. One person, one grave memorial. That's how it works. You go thorough the channels to ask for more information and links to be added. You DO NOT need to "own" or "manage" anyone and everyone you are related to. If someone will transfer a relative within the 4 generation guidelines, wonderful. If the relative doesn't meet the transfer criteria, then you don't need it. What happens if 3 or 4 great great grandchildren (5 generations, out of guidelines) all contact me wanting to "have their relative"....hmmmmm??? Who do I pick? And no, we are not hoarders. We are caretakers of the registration of the grave.

Yes, if you cannot play by the rules, you are not welcome.

LuluAnne

No one on Find a grave owns memorials..They took the picture it's theirs. Get over it.

You create a page it's a duplicate and that is a no no..That can and will get you kicked off the site...Go find somewhere else to post a memorial for your dad there are others out there.... God Forsaken Woman? Oh please!!!

Grow up! :roll

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Anonymous
map-marker Blackstone, Virginia

Find A Grave not responding

Finns National Cemetery, Salem Co., New Jersey. Samuel Harman 1659**** I want transferred to me (Ann Harman Thomas 4755****. Lady that posted the memorial years ago died and her daughter has contacted *** to help her transfer all the request she has rec'd. *** hasn't answered her e-mails. How sad is that, her mother gave so much to the web site and *** feels no responsiblty to help transfer the request she has coming in, come on. Put Bev's memorials in my name and I will take care of the transfers and etc. Ann Harman Thomas4755****
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Jessie Jtq

Harry Kramer if they were rules the website would list them as rules and adhere to them.Admins do not have to follow the faqs and create memorials without finals dispositions violating the faqs. Admins also use copyrighted photos and obits with out permission

all in violation of the website faqs.

Guest

*** does have rules, but they don't call them rules they call them FAQ. Most people don't read one of the FAQ unless (believe it or not) until they have a question.

*** also has the *** *** who obsess about the FAQ rules. These fascist storm troopers get their kicks out of harassing people which apparently is an unwritten rule.

*** needs to get its act together especially when it comes to getting changes made which can be an act of Congress requiring many tries and more than a year in some cases. They also have to stop allowing the website to be turned into a cult for the *** Nazi fanatics who only care about forcing everyone to conform rather than helping people let alone concerned for honoring the deceased.

Guest

AMEN! Findagravesux

ANGEL s Oiv

THE VOLUNTEER ADMINISTRATORS ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN HELPING THEIR FRIENDS GET OTHER MEMBERS BANNED.

IF I WERE YOU I WOULD DELETE ANY CONTRIBUTIONS YOU HAVE MADE AND BE HAPPY YOU HAVE NOT BEEN FOOLED INTO YEARS OF HELPING SUPPORT FIND A GRAVE'S BIASED, UNSCRUPULOUS WEBSITE.

Guest

Find A Grave has gotten to big to not have an experienced help service. It would also be nice if they had a set of rules as well that were enforced.

The administrators are nothing more than volunteers helping others in their free time. Tipton has 1 guy to help 75,000 people in his spare time.

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Anonymous
map-marker Clarksburg, West Virginia

Find a Grave

Back in April of this year i added Andrew Pazak's name to Find a Grave he passed away after being sick for some time..today when i went to Find a Grave i was surprised that what i posted had been merged with someone else who also posted his bio..theres was taken from the obituary that was in the newspaper mine was done in my own words..when someone passes it is tough on the people around them i feel that i should have been notified from Find a Grave asking me my thought on it being done the answer would have been No.

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Guest

I would like to apologize to Charlotte Stovall for pulically outing Her name and accusing her of being(read the FAQS)I do not know that is her nor do I have any proof. I am very sorry for doing that it was bad behavior on my part.

Guest

@ Kathy in Oklahoma - Ancestry's membership is about $149 per year and has been at the price for at least the last 3 years.

Unfortunately, when something is posted on the internet,copyrighted or not, it's basically a *** shoot.

Not only that, but f.a.g. states in no uncertain terms that anything you post on their site becomes part of their site and they retain the rights to it. So if you post it there, it's theirs. That being said, since Ancestry began spidering the f.a.g.

site, they are now privy to the photos and text as well.

I'm not saying it's right or even fair, but that's just the way it is. Best advice - if you don't want something pirated, then don't post it on the internet.

Guest

your complaint is just another example of find a grave's bogus faq's, the apply to some members but not others.

Guest

Hey Kathy I know how you feel someone from findagrave snatched pictures off of my ancestry tree. Dont worry Jim Tipton does get paid by Ancestry to traffic people through

Guest

Those copyright photos and any entry on *** are showing up on ancestry.com as a free access to records source link. Web: Find A Grave Index.

So anyone on ancestry can snach any photos that are available.

I stopped adding anything on *** for a pay website such as Ancestry to make money off of. The last time I checked ancestry is charging about 299.00 a year for membership.

Guest

When someone writes something original, they hold the copyright to it and they can decide if they don't want the copyrighted information merged. The admins are using plenty of copyrighted photos on their, or the site's memorials. I read someone claim the photos were public domain, but the vast majority are not. They are copyright protected. If *** doesn't want its members posting copyrighted stuff, then the admins and owner shouldn't. The admins know they are copyrighted because they often post them as "anonymous" that is easily traced back to them. Also, any photos are copyright protected to the original person who took them so if an admin steals the memorial for themselves or for a friend and reposts the photo, they have violated copyright. Thankfully, there are many ways to trace the original taker of the photo.

Tipton needs to address these issues and soon. It is one thing for a member to post copyrighted material illegally, but a big difference when the admins do it. The fact the admins are hiding behind "anonymous" to post the copyrighted items shows a willing disregard of copyright.

Also, the admins should be held to the same level of accountability of following the FAQs as regular members. They also can't pick and choose who they can ignore for breaking the FAQs. Enforce the rules fairly or suffer the consequences.

FYI, being a "volunteer" doesn't guarantee that you can't be part of a lawsuit. They better hope that Tipton has a large liability policy and that it covers their behavior. I have worked with a number of nonprofits on liability insurance issues and volunteers. Bad volunteer behavior that goes unchecked puts the organization at risk.

On your question of dups, there is a huge problem with the search engine. I have added and deleted a fairly large number of memorials because they didn't show up when I looked for them, including doing a number of searches. At least 1/3 of the time, the search engine comes up blank on last names I know are listed in a cemetery. The ones I had to delete did not show up when I did a search. I do a search, first/last name. Then, another search, last name only, including partial and maiden names. I do the searches a second time if the first time no names show up. Many of my friends report the same issue. Maybe you don't mind wasting time setting up a memorial that, according to several searches, doesn't exist. We do.

If they are merged, then the oldest one should be the one kept, but I've seen too many where the newer one, belonging to an admin or one of their pets, stays and the older one lost.

How many DLs does Pixie Dixie have? FYI, Pixie, it would be obvious to Stevie Wonder which DLs are yours. I helped admin a site for many years and yours are some of the poorest attempts at DLs I've seen in over a decade.

Guest

Read the FAQs AKA Charlotte Stovall AKA Pixie Dixie AKA Buggaboo AKA CJ :upset what were you saying about identities muahahahahaha can you say projection "Projection" in A psychological defense mechanism that occurs when there is something that we do not like about ourselves so we run around accusing others for what we do.

Guest

Read the FAQs AKA Charlotte Stovall AKA Pixie Dixie AKA Buggaboo AKA CJ :upset what were you saying about identities muahahahahaha can you say projection "Projection" is blaming other people for what you yourself do

Guest

Thats not actually true Julie when Administrators ignore rules/faqs; violate them/ no they don't!

Julie S Gvn

Anytime you have a question about a decision that was made you can write to the site. It may take awhile but they will answer - at least if you keep it concise and ask a specific question.

If you ramble and just complain, they'll read it, delete it and move on. It's all they can do with the thousands of emails they get everyday.

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fucknutz c
map-marker Omaha, Nebraska

Members of find-a-grave sending e-mails to my e-mail address

How do i stop annoymous people from sending me e-mails conserning find-a-grave information? fjfiwfwefne fwfofidiwejfwe woefowfjwefijwef wefowefiowef fowfnweof oweiwfiwe qoiwefinfwe ffowef qdowqd oewfiowe woewef owqwef nowqejfdoiwef qinfnwofnweew qwoeweown qonqw qfdqw qoidoieihwif fwebrr weweuwe weuweuwerf wefuwef wewfrjwef wewe owejfrnwejwefr wenew wewerf wef wefg e 54y y4ry45 4y45rtgw5y rty4y45y 45y45y 45yywy gergrthy rtyhhsfhsrf gtagr dsahgsahr erwytrtu aharthytry srfhh srun sjdj dhjsrta athashgrtsah rthyrwth sahtsrfbsrfth srathsrt hga aa errths h aegrae ha sthsr thsfr hsjh snh fhg swry t srfgh sfnsrh yrt hasfdzg nhsfrh rstj hsfjnsfzhg rst hjury jsfg hnfdzs her thy agh arst rwsat hnf sh sarth sfgh sth

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Jolly Wrw

If a person uses the edit button they will get your email address. I have created close to 35,000 memorials and have only gotten about 5 irate folks.

I just pen it up to crazy folks. Cannot please everybody and if a site upset me so much, I would just leave or change my email address.

The folks are all dead and know nothing. It is good to memorialize them, but not let them have your soul.

Jessie Jtq

go back into findagrave and change the settings of your profile

Guest

What does all the gibberish you typed mean. Have you ever used the web site? What you can do, and you don't have to even open the emails is send them to spam.

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Lone H Too
map-marker Washington, District Of Columbia

Love Find a Grave !!

And those who complain such as Divatuff? Well they don't play well with others obviously as noted by the whining. So let me set the record straight. She duped. She plopped. She would not make legitimate corrections. Then she incited her "friend" to harass, make fun of and belittle me like five year old children on their walls which are public. She did everything she could to get around find a grave rules to keep memorials she knew were bogus or already added on the site. When I found mistakes I sent her corrections. She obviously did not like being corrected or being wrong. Every single correction I sent was backed up by proof she was wrong. I don't know if it is the same contributor but someone must have gotten tired of it .. I have hundreds of broken links and missing photos I added to memorials that are now gone. I love Find a Grave and even though I am a genealogist I am sick to death of the contributors who want to make it a "genealogy" website. It's first and primary purpose is to document graves. Which I do by walking, photographing, transcribing and uploading. If you don't like the rules then don't play in Jim's sandbox. How the *** you can be a pissed consumer when you purchased nothing is beyond me but whatever. She can go if she wants.. I will still be there long afterwards. You don't know me. Keep my name out of your mouth. Don't judge me. That ain't your job .. that's His. You can't play nice? Well go home and cry to your momma. And who the *** chooses a tipsy looking woman as their avatar?
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Guest

I did not know how upset people were getting about me using different names on this website. I assumed because the site tracks the town and state people would be able to identify my posts.

In July something was wacky with the site.All my posts are listed under Madison Wisconsin from July 1, 2012 to July 27,2012 On July 28 it changes to Minneapolis, Minnesota. I will now stick to using one name to help you all out but if I forget remember all of July Madison WS and Minneapolis Minnesota to date.

ANGEL s Oiv

you should read and follow your own advice!

wait until someone starts complaining about you to a adminstrator and you get banned! thats all the discussion forum is about people trying to others banned.

FIND A GRAVE PROFITS FROM ALL THE LOSERS THAT WALK CEMETERIES AND ADD THEIR HARD WORK TO THE SITE!

TIME, GAS & ENERGY IS WASTED ON LINING JIM TIPTONS POCKETS! REPORT ANY ABUSE TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU LETS ALL DO WHAT WE CAN TO SHOW EVERYONE OUT THERE THAT YOU WILL BE USED BY FIND A GRAVE A THEN BURIED!

Alana M Fty

The founders/admins of *** are narcissists. Unfortunately they have found their way to the internet and created a site which has lured unsuspecting people into contributing information at their own time and expense to build a "little empire" of ***.

A lot of people still believe that *** is a valid source of information in doing genealogy research. But the reality of the situation is that *** is nothing more than a joke in the genealogy community. No one takes them seriously any longer.

I recently took a course in which their website was mentioned and there were several warnings about NOT trusting the information on that site.

Apparently they have let what little credibility they used to have go to their heads because this is one of those cases of "coulda, woulda, shoulda".

Real genealogists do not use ***. I mean who would use an acronym such as *** to begin with? ROFL!

Anita B Orn

Read the FAQs

No charlotte not really how about you do you struggle with it at all and I must say how do you keep up with your stalking hmmmm now come on pixie dixie cj hmmm buggaboo how do you do it?

Guest

oh come on I do that for you specifically, read the faqs I love it when you announce my name AKA Anita Bracken'' like im an under cover PI8) and you just busted me.:upset ;)

Guest

@what (aka Anita Bracken): How many personalities do you have? It must be tough to never know which one is responsible for the action...

Guest

The Psychology of Sarcasm

if the sarcasm seems to be particularly directed toward you, and if it mostly consists of mimicking you in an unpleasant manner, then this is the sort of sarcasm that that person is using more maliciously. This form of sarcasm is normally used as a way for that person to try and improve their own standing and reputation by putting you down.

They might then use sarcasm with the intention of making you look foolish and through doing this they then hope to make themselves look more intelligent and move further up the hierarchy.

Such people tend to have low self esteem and so require the use of put downs such as sarcasm in order to try and make themselves feel or look better. These people are like leaches on your self esteem and it's important not to let the problem get to you.

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Martha B Vim
map-marker Petersburg, Virginia

Find-A-Grave

I have sent Find--Grave four request's to delete all my postings and even identified the URLs for them. The reason that I want them deleted is that I found them all on a mocavo.com search. Since Movavo is offering a paid subscription (https://www.mocavo.com/order) they are in fact offering to sell my Intellectual Property which is copyright protected! Find-A-grave ignored my first request, answered my second wih a statement that it was not a copyright violation; and ignored my third and fourth requests when I resent them with proof of the copyright violation. I recommend that individuls not post any data on their site, you give it to them free and then they allow it to be sold!
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Guest

oh super here is another person from findagrave demonstrating behavior approved of by Jim TIPTON!

Miss Kitty_Tee

@OMG!! You made me laugh with your ignorance concerning search engine!!!

Oh! One more thing don't forget you can delete your memorials yourself...Still laughing!

sarcasm seems to be particularly directed toward you, and if it mostly consists of mimicking you in an unpleasant manner, then this is the sort of sarcasm that that person is using more maliciously. This form of sarcasm is normally used as a way for that person to try and improve their own standing and reputation by putting you down. They might then use sarcasm with the intention of making you look foolish and through doing this they then hope to make themselves look more intelligent and move further up the hierarchy. Such people tend to have low self esteem and so require the use of put downs such as sarcasm in order to try and make themselves feel or look better. These people are like leaches on your self esteem and it's important not to let the problem get to you.

Kitty S Jkf

Oops I meant to add Mblocker5857 to the party! :)

Kitty S Jkf

Oh! One more thing don't forget you can delete your memorials yourself...Still laughing! :grin

Kitty S Jkf

@OMG!! You made me laugh with your ignorance concerning search engine!!! :grin

Guest

is the information being sold *** yeah! Tipton is profiting off of the information added.Just because it is not being sold in the traditional way he is still selling it.

My website brings in x amount of people a day. I have them creating as many bogus memorials as fast as they can. If you place your ad on my site i can get the people here to view them. So yes your labor is still paying for his family vacations.

Meanwhile he is to cheap to hire people that wont call you *** and will delete 5 years worth of money you invested in creating memorials when administrators moms are creating bogus memorials to compete for numbers around to get burials in the correct cemetery replaced with a memorial they altered to appear as if it was one that met the site requirements.

SO IT IS A BAD SITE. THEY WASTE YOUR TIME ENERGY AND MONEY.

Guest

If they are your memorials on Find A Grave you can delete them yourself. Just sign in, go to the memorial and click deleat this memorial button.

Guest

As in most complaints, the complainer doesn't even read the info on the sites they whine about. Mocavo's basic search engine is FREE.

Like NO CHARGE.

Subscribers can pay for enhanced features, but it is FREE to search. You are really going to have a stroke when you find out *** is searchable via Ancestry.com.

Guest

Do you know for a fact that it was sold?

I get hits everyday through Google for Findagrave, and Mocavo is nothing more than a glorified search engine.

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Claudia R Jlw
map-marker Houston, Texas

Pleased. Found grave after 20 years of searching.

For over 20 years I hunted for my great grandmother's grave. I found someone who searched for graves as a hobby and through Findagrave he found my grandmother's grave. There was no death certificate and no one knew where she was buried. Out in West Texas, in a very small cemetery, near a ranch where some of her family lived she was buried in 1906 with just a small concrete marker. There was a picture of this marker on find a grave with only the last name that was almost washed away. I want to thank the person who made those pictures and posted them. The cemetery care- takers did not know that grave was there. The historian for that little community did not know it was there and she had been forgotten and lost all these years. My family has provided a very nice monument for her. I can not understand all the negative comments that have been posted on this site about find a grave and some right nasty ones. Many people would be lost forever if they didn't provide this service for free and after all our ancestors are gone forever and we should be happy that our friends can find those that they didn't know were gone and maybe someday visit those graves that a lot of people forget once they are buried.
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Guest

I don't understand a lot of the anger at F.A.G.I have found dozens of family members with ***, and I give more credit to birth and death dates from gravestones than other sources. I visited a family member's grave this morning and I'm sure I walked over many people's graves. I admit I feel funny doing that, but I am respectful.

BTW, when I tried Billions of Graves, my anti-virus gave a warning

Guest
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Never had a problem with virus warnings on BillionGraves and I use it hundreds of times a day. Had so many virus, malware, crapware, etc.

warnings from FindAGrave flashy ads I installed an ad blocker. Glad BillionGraves does not have flashing ads. Waiting for Ancestry to go 100% Ancestry ads only on FindAGrave.

How long before Diehard gets sued for cyber-bullying? She has no problem being faq police and ignoring those faqs she does not want to follow.

Guest

Hey, read the Faqs I do find that interesting that you are mentioning suicide. VERY INTERESTING!

Jessie Jtq
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GET SOME HELP READ THE FAQS JEEEEESH

Guest

See claudia what did I tell you, The cyber stalking bully Keeps callinmg out my name and just attacked me verbally.... Thankyou for setting another perfect example Read The FAQS :upset

Jessie Jtq
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I am sorry you and your family are being bullied and stalked!!! the level of cyber stalking going on with this web site is ALARMING!!!

people pay attention before using this site. It clearly bans the human beings and allows predators to lurk

Guest

@Anita: No one sent me here, least of all Jim Tipton. But more importantly, you do not know that Mr.

Tipton is "cool with" cruelty. You show your true colors every time you post such a lie.

If you know someone who is suicidal, please seek medical/psychiatric help for them! Posting on this or any other site is not helping them!

Jessie Jtq
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Jackie Wilson Goddard AKA Read the FAQS... Do you know how many of your victims in which you spend so much of your free time stalking and bullying are diagnosed with depression?

You really should try to find that out before you cyberstalk and bully people over virtual memorials. All it will take is for you to terrorize one depressed person to push them over the edge. If your virtual memorials are more important than the human beings you are stalking harassing and bullying I suggest you get some help.... If you do not like using a website with out rules I suggest you find a new website to use.

This one clearly spins you off your rational rocker.

Guest

Yes its a good thing you praised the sight claudia because read the faqs is a personal findagrave cyber stalker bully. She is sent here by Jim Tipton.

Had you had any constructive criticism you and your family would have ended up on read the faqs hit list and in bully blogs.

Jim tipton bans people for using chalk on headstones in cemeteries but he is cool with acts of cruelty that increase suicide;which in turns boosts his numbers in his database. I believe that will also contribute to his income as well.

Guest

find a grave so called faq's only apply to some members...see dennis deel's copyrighted photos added...see valencia that has no cemetery location for the majority of her memorials also note that she does not allow grave stone photos added; even when they are added per volunteer photo request. THE FACT IS FIND A GRAVE IS STEALING FROM OBITUARIES THAT FAMILY PAYS FOR AND PROFITING FROM GRAVESTONES THAT FAMILY PAYS FOR! FIND A GRAVE PROVIDES NO WORTHY SERVICES BUT PROFITS FROM THE DEATHS OF OTHERS!

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Iman P
map-marker Shrewsbury, Massachusetts

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I was happy with the findagrave web site until I joined their forums to ask questions. You would think the folks would be helpful, but immediately they jump all over your post, making you feel unwelcome and ***. They're worried about photograph copyrights when all you asked about was using one of the photos on your ancestry tree. It's ridiculous. They constantly talk about "reporting to admin," just to fluff their own feathers. Beware of adding anything on their forums. If you join, just keep to yourself and go about your business. They'll probably never see your ancestry tree anyway.
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If I left the doors unlocked and windows down on my car and hung the hope diamond from my review mirror and when i came back and it was gone am I a victim?

NO!!! IM AN ***!!!

who the heck runs around trying to control everyone else and does nothing to control the only person they can control and that's themselves. how about i just not hang the hope diamond off my rear view mirror or lock the door because if its that *** important to me I can keep it safe.

you can water mark a picture you can just not post it on a website that people think you are posting those pictures for them to see/use. lots of options but you patrol family trees to get people in trouble wow or come on here calling them thieves really? well that makes you an *** I guess :x

Guest

@Findagrave contributor: Typically, those who defend or condone illegal and unethical behavior, usually are ones who commit such offenses themselves...

Copyright owners have every right, legally and morally, to defend those rights. They should not be called crazy for doing so. Unless you're willing to be called crazy when your property is stolen and you want the matter corrected.

Guest

"Written by Read the FAQs on June 12, 2012 from lenora, kansas, US

@Findagrave contributor: So, you're admitting to stealing photos and resent those who enforce their copyrights. Nice. At least you're honest about your illegal and unethical behavior. A *good* genealogist (and person) asks permission."

Thanks for the link. My post was based on what I have observed in the forums not what I have personally experienced. I don't see any confession in my post of illegal or unethical behavior on my part so it seems you are jumping to conclusions.

Guest

Thanks everyone for posting your similar *** experiences with the *** forum freaks. I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one that had bad experiences. I have not run into such a bunch of crass, controlling, unprofessional, psychotic dolts ever. Seems to be some strange obsessive fascination that attracts these misfits there in droves. Mind you I'm not talking about the normal average users there are some very nice people and very helpful too but I'm talking about the greedy obsessive egomaniacs you are certain to find in what I'd call the "ForThem's" Number one hint - don't EVER use the forums unless you are a masochist. Do whatever you want! It will hopefully drive these people over the edge. They genuinely seem to love spending every waking second berating and demeaning people.

Sucks to be them when they die, think of all the others that went before waiting for them to explain why they wouldn't transfer their memorial to their loved one that wanted it???

You just keep hoarding those memorials sisters and denying transfers to family members!!! Wherever you go you'll have lots of explaining to do!!!!!:grin

Users needs will eventually dictate changes to *** so it can and will be used more fairly or not at all. Change is the one constant in life and you can take to the bank. :p

And before you ask I'm in my 50's Julie and I hold a Phd.

Guest

Posted by WOW "people should not go to the forums- You get attacked by crazy hens like Julie and Jackie who have no lives other than trying to nab those using "their" photos"

I love Find A Grave, it's a wonderful resource & there are so many helpful people who take the time to add records & photos.

However, I have been in the forums several times & I always see the same small VERY VOCAL group of COMPLAINERS. It certainly does seem like they have no life.

Somehow they have time to photograph graves & list them and also man the forum day & night to jump on anybodys *** who is not well versed in the FAQs. If that's not enough they scour the internet, particularly Ancestry, to make sure no one gets use of their photos and/or info from FindAGrave. Just about a week ago Jackie said she had sent some 125 or so claims to Ancestry in one month for copyright claims.

I just hope none of them ever take a photo on my request. If they have fufilled a request for you I suggest you put in a new request to be taken by someone who realizes the value of sharing these photos instead of hoarding them & make sure you let them know you want a photo to add to your tree when you make the request.

Guest

I know your are!

But What am I?

Guest

That usually caeuss 1 slot to be dead. It wasn't a issue of the cover breaking a slot.

It was a vibration issue. The slots didn't have enough reenforcement. This looks like a irq issue. I would suggest loading bios defaults.

All PCI slots should have irq 11. Don't know why but I was having the same issue when I set the slots to auto instead of irq 11.

Guest

Photos that individuals have taken (as in operated the camera rather than snatched), are covered by copyright. Seeing it online does not make it fair game.

Some choose to protect their copyright and are within their rights to do so. Others request that you ask permission before doing using their photos, as is also within their rights. Some don't care what you do with their shots. I will allow the use of mine if someone sends a simple and polite request.

If I find them posted without my permission, I will have them removed and no amount of asking will get permission. I have that right to protect what is mine, but that interest varies with each contributor. It is a contentious topic on the board, as are a few other items.

While you may not agree with either Julie's position or her delivery, the truth is that she is right. You can't take stuff that belongs to other people.

Penny P Jrb

Julie SUllivan-

Let me ask you: Are you over the age of five yourself?

Adding fuel to the fire may make you feel good for a split second, but it does NOTHING in the way of being constructive or helpful.

Sarcasm and being mean doesn't look good on the people who dish it out. If you can't be helpful or leave the drama at the door, then go sit in the time out chair until you are readyto act your age.

Guest

For the most part, the people on Find A Grave can be helpful. That said, there is a sizable group involved with the message boards are are just bullies.

These people are not helpful, and they act "put out" whenever anyone asks a question in what they consider (mistakenly) "their private domain".

In fact, the *** forum looks a great deal like the forums you find for newspapers where people can hide behind "identities" other than there own.

These same people seem to have forgotten that the purpose of a message board forum is to foster communication. Unfortunatly, as I suspect, many of these people don't have lives and think because they can hide behind "handles" that they can lash out at anyone at any time.

Until ***'s management team puts moderators into those forums and bring the smack down on the rude users, and know it all types, I would only approach it with a ten foot pole and a hazmat suit.

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