Find A Grave - Vultures like F.A.G. user Ken Nagel should be banned!

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My brother died back in 2014. A few months after his death, I went on F.A.G. to create a memorial for him, which I should have every right to do! My memorial was deleted because this vulture named Ken Nagel had already made a memorial for him and he didn't even know my brother! He's one of the many vultures on that site that are just watching the obituaries for people to drop dead so they can hurry and make a memorial! What is the point in this? Are they somehow making money off of this? I sure wouldn't doubt it. The families memorials should be first, not those of strangers! I've been a member of F.A.G. for a very long time now but am thinking of deleting my account because I'm so sick of the jackals!
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Anonymous
#1641094

Your memorial wasn't deleted it was merged with an already existing memorial. Creating 2 memorials for 1 deceased person in no way honors the dead.

All duplicates should be merged but considering how many exist that's probably not possible. Some of you people are a real trip.

Anonymous
#1523730

You made a duplicate. You violated site policy.

Deal with it.violatesFamily members do not have exclusive rights to create memorials for relatives. Doo you have any idea how many people have found their relatives because a stranger created a memorial for their relative?

Anonymous
#1525445
@PissedConsumer1523730

If telling them the right procedure to follow makes you get aggravated, then it's just possible that Find A Grave's policy on transferring memorials to family members is not prominently displayed enough. Or they are just not quite as quick on the uptake as yourself.

The question of whether or not a family member gets to manage their relative's memorial is not really at issue, so it's probably more useful to instruct them as to the process for getting that done. All you get from responding like this is angry slow people.

Anonymous
#1536685
@PissedConsumer1525445

I believe you can politely REQUEST a transfer. However, the memorial creator is not obligated to make the transfer.

I've had a woman contact me to voluntarily transfer a few memorial to me. I didn't Even ask.

Anonymous
#1536951
@PissedConsumer1536685

Unfortunately, politeness is something that does happen too often there with the hoarders. They become unhinged, devilish and have foaming fits....... Too sad !

Anonymous
#1551621
@PissedConsumer1536685

In the OP's case, the memorial creator IS obligated to make the transfer because the deceased was the OP's brother, a required transfer. It helps to read and understand the site's policies.

Gobbo L
#1529921
@PissedConsumer1523730

Family members should always come first when it comes to making memorials for their family! If there is already a stranger made memorial and a family member decides they want to add their own, then the stranger made memorial should be removed, end of story.

If F.A.G.

had any compassion, this is the way it would be. You are an idiot!

Anonymous
#1536285
@Gobbo L

I completely agree with you!

Anonymous
#1551623
@Gobbo L

Creating memorials for YOUR family is not the purpose of the site. Find A Grave users should read and comprehend the site's policies and understand they are "guests".

When you are a GUEST, you abide by your hosts' wishes. That's basic common courtesy.

Anonymous
#1536681
@PissedConsumer1523730

I've had people leave comments on my Find A Grave page THANKING me for taking the time to create a memorial and photographing the head stone. On lady wrote from England saying that she lost touch with her sister and was happy to see her headstone.

As well, this lady was disabled and unable to visit her sister in person. I have recieved a few more like this one.

Some people care offended, some are delighted. Can't please everyone.

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#1307131 Review #1307131 is a subjective opinion of poster.
Location
Barrhead, Scotland
Service
Find A Grave Genealogy Record
Cons
  • Dealing with horders
  • Others deleting memorials i created
Reason of review
Deleted memorial for my brother

Find A Grave - This site has gotten out of hand

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When I joined 9 years ago, it was a simple site where people could find out where an ancestor was buried and even ask a volunteer to take a photo of the headstone if there wasn’t one. Now there are people who are emassing thousands of memorials, either because they are obsessed with collecting them or are control freaks who want control of them all. Many have now started adding detailed information that is not proven. They don’t use proper genealogical practices and rely on unofficial sources such as obituaries. They are lift information off ancestry.com with no thought to its accuracy or giving the person credit. It’s like plagiarism gone amok. Family members are horrified to find a stranger is managing their relative’s memorial. Some people will transfer it but many won’t. The people who collect thousands if memorial will just randomly keep suggesting edits in the hope that the owner will just transfer the memorial to them. Very few understand genealogy. They read an old newspaper article and think that is proof. It is a total mess. I find it really sad. A headstone and year of birth & death is adequate. If they want to do more they should open up their wallets and subscribe to ancestry.com, stop doing someone elses’s family tree and just worry about their own.
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Anonymous
#1572220

I agree with this person totally. I would love to just have the memorials for my family to help other family members.

But, it's very hard to get cooperation from the people who claim the memorial. In fact, I have yet had one to transfer ownership!

i don't agree with the name this consumer gave himself. That is NOT professional!

Anonymous
#1551682

Don't revise history. Nine years ago, people were also creating thousands and thousands of memorials.

The reasons they are doing so are as myriad as there are members. Some do it for genealogy. Some do it because they are taphophiles. Some do it to preserve history.

Some do it just because they like the format. None of those reasons are wrong. Nine years ago people were adding info from Ancestry without further verification. That hasn't changed at all.

There were also people who added unverified "family lore". They still do. Nine years ago, there were people who objected to "strangers" creating their family member's memorials. However, nine years ago, there were no transfers.

A headstone and years of birth and death ARE adequate. Nine years ago, Find A Grave didn't say "stick to your own family." They still don't because "family" isn't the purpose of Find A Grave.

Anonymous
#1512519

I am so tired of self-proclaimed "geneaologists" showing up on FAG and getting on their high horse about contributors on FAG. Some of the contributors to FAG could run circles around these whiny "genealogists" when it comes to research.Don't like FAG? Don't use FAG.

Anonymous
#1512718
@PissedConsumer1512519

You're just a jealous person! What you say is all complete nonsense!

If you can do the long tedious hours of research than get with it MAN!

And how would you know if these people there are all self proclaimed genealogists? Have you asked them personally?

Anonymous
#1513001
@PissedConsumer1512718

I agree, if coping people's PERSONAL newspaper obituarys, and confiscating photos from the newspaper be considered doing better work than what a genealogist does. I stick my finger down my throat and choke.

Anonymous
#1514331
@PissedConsumer1513001

Clueless. You base your comments on what some do so it fits your childish agenda of putting down FAG members. After you are done choking, get a nose adjustment so that you are not always looking down it.FAG does not need you and your ilk on its site.

Anonymous
#1514327
@PissedConsumer1512718

The old "tell someone they are jealous" response - when you have nothing of substance to add.I have yet to meet a person who complained about the research of others who did not view themselves as some sort of genealogy guru.Eever look at the trees on Ancestry? Ninety percent of them are the source of a headache, not any really factual info. Misinformation is regurgitated from tree to tree.It's not research, it is cut and paste crap.

Anonymous
#1515741
@PissedConsumer1514327

Yep, you are definitely a jealous person! All you have done from one end of this PCon., is nag, and gripe at everyone! Maybe you should take a long break or perhaps leave F--g.

Anonymous
#1517792
@PissedConsumer1515741

The *** who post on here and complain about Findagrave are pathetic. They cannot follow rules or read instructions.

Anonymous
#1515743
@PissedConsumer1514327

LOL LOl LOL :) U R SAD!

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#1294431 Review #1294431 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
Reason of review
Bad quality
If the PRIVATE cemeteries don't like what Find A Grave volunteers have added, let them contact Find A Grave and complain and get the info/photos taken down. If you don't want your fathers info on the site, write to FG and tell them to take it down. So you talked to a...
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Augusto
#1511372

Find a Grave is just a numbers game...the faster you get those memorials up the faster your numbers go up...lol I swear these people don't have lives anymore they spend it on find a grave and reading newspapers all day to find obituaries..yeah find a grave anymore is a BIG JOKE anymore...!!!!

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#1286781 Review #1286781 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Bad quality
There is a woman who manages my sister's find a grave and I have asked her not to post certain photos and she won't stop. It is my sister, and I should be the one who manages her site, not this woman.
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Anonymous
#1550023

I can not get one of my accounts open on findagrave need help bm doc

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#1283364 Review #1283364 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Find A Grave - Very frustrating
Does not find our family cemetery under original name, Thistlewood Cemetery or current name, Bee hgrove Cemetery. I was on the site trying to add my Uncle's gtave and photos and it messes up and loses the place and when ypy start over can't find the cemetery. Pmease...
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Anonymous
#1505490

This site is Pissed Consumer, not Find A Grave, no one is going to call you from here. Go to Findagrave.com, look under the FAQ's and it tells you how to get a hold of them.

But look on the bright side, you just posted your phone number for the whole world to see. :/

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#1275273 Review #1275273 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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I spent over 3 years walking the cemeteries here in Alabama. ONLY to find every single one of them copied on this site. I added unmarked graves from death certs & family info. Plus I do not say I am prefect and I do make mistakes. When you see your mistake. you know...
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Anonymous
#1551691

First, the Supreme Court says that no one owns "facts" (names, dates, locations) so no one can steal them. If only facts were copied, Find A Grave was correct that the info is "public" (actually, public domain). Second, if someone posted your photos without your permission, you can send an email to Find A Grave that your copyrights are being violated (because photos are creative works, not facts) and they will remove it.

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#1274438 Review #1274438 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Poor customer service
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Delete my information
LikeI am trying to get in touch with P.K. Magruder, she has been doing a lot of work for Find a Grave in Northampton, Massachusetts. When I try to click on her link on your website it fails to connect to her. My problem is that I have been looking for my great...
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#1273034 Review #1273034 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Bad quality
*** Clarke Hagaman is not interred in Kishwaukee Cemetery, Il. Her husband, Francis Hagaman is interred there. After his death iin 1844, she returned to Amsterdam NY where she is interred! So many submissions are incorrect. Any one can make up anything and submit it....
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Anonymous
#1514312

When did the world, or FAG, start revolving around genealogists?

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#1271412 Review #1271412 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Can't find a grave and I know it's there

I want to update some of my relatives memorials on find a grave but it is telling me no matches when I know they are on their as I put them there
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Anonymous
#1551687

You're probably using too many criteria. Search using the First and Last name and the year of death.

If there are too many results, search again with the same info plus year of birth. Also, remember the "location" is NOT the place of death; it's the place of BURIAL.

(and it's best NOT to include any location on the first search). If the last name has a space (like Van Camp), try search both with and without the space.

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#1266100 Review #1266100 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Bad quality

Find A Grave - Site Unreliable....Contributors DO NOT COOPERATE WITH FAMILY

Contributors ASSUME that all names in a cemetary are related! You csn give them the correct information, and are blown off. This is NOT I would recommend to friends!
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Anonymous
#1551688

There is a process to get corrections made. Have you followed it?

First, contact the memorial manager via the Edit page on the memorial in question. Provide the correct info. If the Edit is declined, send a "Suggest other corrections" email with the documentation (and a LINK to the document).

Wait 30 days. If they do not correct it, forward the email to Find A Grave.

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#1260090 Review #1260090 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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My fathers listing has so many errors. It is ridiculous that this website allows just anyone to input the information. Someone needs to shut this sight down.
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Anonymous
#1492314

MB&Friends has been removed 4 times . She then stared useing her mothers account .Then Creates another account MDC-Angleswith her real name then that wastook off she created 4 Doc then they stop letting her add to it she then made DOC.

To get back on she created 425 in less than a month but was transferring back to FindAGrave as soon as she created them .Then 3 months after she was shut down on the MBFriends she was let back on again . Also Harold Clark and 2 more. years ago she was reported to Katrina she told a member that MBFriend had been warn about moving the graves .Also They are a account used by Michelle I feel that was hers also plus many more .She will report on member through her other accountsTo save her top account. Please visit her family graves leave a flower on Dochterman grave She is a nasty person to work with I now washed my hands but so many still have to deal with her !

The curators have now removed all there information but they let this person put living family they will track you down on Facebook, Katrina just didn't really know how bad mbfriend was or I don't feel she would let it go on!

Also when Shelly wanted some one removed she would add flowers to Debbie Dash family graves, A lady said her Boss reported it And the flowers that MBFriend left on dash family change to another member number that it a fact save on a Facebook page !Facebook has a findagrave page say anything you want about fag but Katrina is also on it . Katrina comes from a family that connects to the Smiths Mormon of the church ,So I can't understand why she would feel this is ok for what MBFriend is doing ,Maybe send the request to the Mormon Church and ask if they could help Go public with it .They want to work on mission This is a mission to stop bullying After 14 years of MBFamily I think if MBFriend done one of the Curators kids wrong that when it will stop Hey I am not a *** member just think its wrong Being they connect to the moron church and stand for people to be treated so wrong ,

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#1254647 Review #1254647 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Not as described/ advertised

Incorrect names on find a grave

My father’s name is Carl Graham Hamilton not Carl Gilbert Hamilton I should know because he’s my father. Sincerely Carl Graham Hamilton Jr. You need to make sure that you have the correct information before posting false information!!!
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#1254034 Review #1254034 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Bad quality

Find A Grave - Husband's obituary

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I don't know how to contact The Lassiter's on Find a Grave but you better find out how asap. This obituary was not the one published by me his widow. There was a reason it was written the way it was. I expect the incorrect one to be removed immediately. The obituary is on Benjamin F. Barker III. He was murdered by a drunk *** that wasn't paying attention on April 24, 2010. My family and I have suffered enough without some *** that don't even know us posting an unapproved obituary. O expect to be contacted within 72 hours or I will be contacting my attorney. And they should never have trespassed on private property to get pictures of a private family cemetery to be with.
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Anonymous
#1558199

Only the copyright holder of the obit can have it removed

Anonymous
#1551690

It's been almost 4 months. Did you contact your attorney?

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#1249481 Review #1249481 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Not as described/ advertised
I just found an obituary posted by The Lassiter's on your website that is not the obituary my family and I posted at the death of my husband Benjamin F. Barker in April of 2010. I expect an immediate response and I demand this obituary be taken down and if you want to...
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Anonymous
#1641061

I have contacted my attorney as well. Got your back girl.

We will sue Findagrave and a court will award us full control of the site. Some of these complaints are unbelievable.

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#1249471 Review #1249471 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Not as described/ advertised
I put my nephew in a memorial and his daughter wanted it so I transferred it to her. I did run a check before I added it and the other memorial did not even show. When Ancestry took over, they merged my memorial with hers so I lost my memorial to someone who was not...
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Anonymous
#1551701

Yours was either added as a non-cemetery disposition or it was a duplicate.

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#1245307 Review #1245307 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Find A Grave Genealogy Record
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Poor customer service